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Answering Evangelism Page 615-617 Leroy Froom's seemingly Trinitarian Collection of EGW writingsHow many times have we seen these quotes. All apparently Trinitarian. All these quotes are actually non-trinitarian. Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity Quote:"The Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity.--The eternal heavenly dignitaries--God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit--arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, . . ." {Ellen White Evangelism 616} Firstly "the eternal dignitaries of the trinity" looks nice, it's all capitalized but it is totally uninspired. Let's re-read the quote. "The eternal heavenly dignitaries--God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit--arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, . . ." {Ev 616.4} It would be great to see the entire context of this quote outside of Evangelism. However just from what we can see it refers to "God", "Christ" and "the Holy Spirit". "God" is distinct from his son, and his spirit in this quote. This to me indicates that the title "God" in this quote refers to the father alone. I don't think that we can read into this quote "God the father, son and holy spirit, and Christ and the Holy Spirit". The title God refers alone to the father in this quote and as far as can be seen in not Trinitarian at all. The Holy Spirit is a Person Quote Personality of the Holy Spirit.--"We need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through This quote says "God is a person". This seems to be non-trinitarian as well. Since Trinitarians teach that "God is three persons". However, let me go further. Let's say "Paul is a person as much as his spirit is a person." Would we then say Paul's spirit was someone separate and distinct from Paul? This is the same with our father in heaven. He is spirit the bible says. Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. These verses talk about our father who is spirit, and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth. Many think that our God is a "mystery" which they call a Trinity. The words of Jesus "Ye know not what ye worship" would apply if our God is a mystery. When we get to heaven, God will not then say "Meet my spirit". We will see God face to face, and we will know him. The father of Jesus Christ. Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The spirit is as much a person as God is a person. The Three Great Powers of Heaven - Ellen White Let’s look at this carefully, then answer my questions. I believe we are to co-operate with the "three great powers" however only one of thosethree entities is the eternal God. Read carefully then answer the question below. "It is the fulfillment of the covenant that God has made with those who bind themselves up with Him, to stand with Him, with His Son, and with His Spirit in holy fellowship. Have you been born again? Have you become a new being in Christ Jesus? Then co-operate with the three great powers of heaven who are working in your behalf. Doing this you will reveal to the world the principles of righteousness. -Signs of the Times, June 19, 1901 par. 4 It says "GOD" binds us to him by "his SON". Who does the title "God" refer to? A) God the father binds us to himself by his son. Well, the answer is clear for all to see, however someone did answer this: “IT SHOULD BE :God the father, Son and the Holy Spirit binds us to themselves” So I did add the words “The father, Son and the Holy Spirit) into this passage to see how it would sound. "It is the fulfillment of the covenant that God(The Father, Son and Holy Spirit) has made with those who bind themselves up with Him(the Father, Son and Holy Spirit), to stand with Him, with His(the Father, Son and Holy Spirit’s) Son, and with His(the Father, Son and Holy Spirit’s) Spirit in holy fellowship. Have you been born again? Have you become a new being in Christ Jesus? Then co-operate with the three great powers of heaven who are working in your behalf. Doing this you will reveal to the world the principles of righteousness. -Signs of the Times, June 19, 1901 par. 4 I think we can see that answer B is clearly incorrect. 1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. “Let the brightest example the world has yet seen be your example, rather than the greatest and most learned men of the age, who know not God, nor Jesus Christ whom he has sent. The Father and the Son alone are to be exalted.” (Ellen White, The Youth’s Instructor, July 7, 1898) Heavenly Trio "I am instructed to say, The sentiments of those who are searching for advanced scientific ideas are not to be trusted. Such representations as the following are made: "The Father is as the light invisible; the Son is as the light embodied; the Spirit is the light shed abroad." "The Father is like the dew, invisible vapor; the Son is like the dew gathered in beauteous form; the Spirit is like the dew fallen to the seat of life." Another representation: "The Father is like the invisible vapor; the Son is like the leaden cloud; the Spirit is rain fallen and working in refreshing power." All these spiritualistic representations are simply nothingness. They are imperfect, untrue. They weaken and diminish the Majesty which no earthly likeness can be compared to. God can not be compared with the things His hands have made. These are mere earthly things, suffering under the curse of God because of the sins of man. The Father can not be described by the things of earth. The Father is all the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and is invisible to mortal sight. The Comforter that Christ promised to send after He ascended to heaven, is the Spirit in all the fulness of the Godhead, making manifest the power of divine grace to all who receive and believe in Christ as a personal Saviour. There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers--the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit-- those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ. . . ." {SpTB07 62-63} The son is the expression of God's "person". The father's person is seen in his son Jesus Christ as well as the Holy Spirit which is manifest through more than just the father and son. The Father is God here and he gave his only begotten Son according to this quote. This teaches us that we have one God. If you look carefully here is what you see this: God the father, the only true God is invisible to mortal sight. No man has seen God. The son made manifest the father's Godhead(divine nature). And the Holy Spirit in all the fullness of the Godhead has manifest God the father;s POWER and DIVINITY(Godhead)[Rom 1:20] or Divine grace to all who receive Christ the comforter. Brackets are added on this for clarity as so many today did not know that the Godhead is the father's divinity, which the father gave to his son.(Col 1:19) and was well pleased that in his Son should all the fulness of the Godhead(Divine Nature) dwell which is the manifestation of the fathers's spirit. Noone dwells "In the Godhead". The Godhead dwells in Christ and his son, and all who partake of the divine nature since the Spirit is fullness of the Godhead manifesting the father's POWER and DIVINITY. In all of these quotes the term God refers to the father alone. Jesus Christ is referred to as the son of God. Is there a difference between the belief in the "Godhead" vs. "the Trinity? A) Many today are using the term "godhead" to mean "God". Some have tried to replace the term "trinity" with "godhead". But the truth is: God has a "Godhead". “The Godhead” is a characteristic of “God”. Notice in the following verse that his "Godhead" is clearly seen in the things made. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Now if the term "Godhead" is the new replacement word for "Trinity" or "three in one God" than the verse is saying "God's “three in one God” is clearly seen in the things made" or "God's trinity is clearly seen in the things made". Concludingly “Godhead” does not mean a “three in one God”. I'd like to propose to you that the term "Godhead" actually means "divinity" or "divine nature". Here is Ellen White wrote once. She quotes this same verse Romans 1:20. But notice that the word "Godhead" is translated "divinity". She quotes it from the American Standard Version. "The invisible things of Him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even His everlasting power and divinity." Romans 1:20, A.R.V."(Ellen White Ministry of Healing 410). So the term "Godhead" refers to a characteristic of God himself. God is the father if we read the context. He is not a three in one God. Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. So if we read that carefully we see that God the father has a "Godhead" which is his "divinity". His divine nature was given to His Son. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: All things proceed from God and are given to Christ. Now most Trinitarians today have renamed the "Trinity" and now call it the "Godhead". It's like calling a cat a dog. It's still a cat. But in order to escape comparison to Rome they misuse the term "godhead". But as you can see "godhead" means "divinity" and not "trinity". God's divinity is clearly seen in the things made, not God's trinity. For further material on this topic, see attached links. And who is the comforter? “The Saviour is our Comforter. This I have proved Him to be.” (Ellen White, Manuscript Releases, vol. 8, page 49) “The nights are long and painful, but Jesus is my Comforter and my Hope.” (Ellen White, Manuscript Releases, vol. 19, page 296) “Christ is everything to those who receive Him. He is their Comforter, their safety, their healthfulness. Apart from Christ there is no light at all.” (Ellen White, Manuscript Releases, vol. 21, page 372) “There is no comforter like Christ, so tender and so true. He is touched with the feeling of our infirmities. His Spirit speaks to the heart.… The influence of the Holy Spirit is the life of Christ in the soul.” (Ellen White, Review & Herald, October 26, 1897) “Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent.” (Ellen White,Manuscript Releases, vol. 14, pages 23, 24; written February 18 and 19, 1895) 2Jn 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. Truth About God The Comforter which is the Holy Spirit
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these grounds."--Manuscript 66, 1899. {Ellen White Evangelism 616}